Wednesday, December 12, 2012


Is this where modern version supporters will find the next claimed "oldest and best" manuscripts?

Vaticanus (Vat, B) is the primary manuscript behind modern versions. Sinaiticus (Sin, Aleph) is the secondary Alexandrian (Egyptian, African) mss. used for MVs. Their Old Testament portions are also the two primary extant representatives of the supposed Septuagint (LXX).

Both Vaticanus & Sinaiticus include the Apocrypha AS inspired canon. Sin goes further and adds the Epistle of Barnabas and Shepherd of Hermas to the NT. To make room, it omits the first part of John 8, the last part of Mark 16, and several other scattered verses.

Vat omits most of Genesis, ALL of Revelation, the pastoral epistles, and over 30 Psalms. It was left stuffed in the corner of the attic of the Vatican library for over 1,000 years - even the old Catholics didn't use it. A secondary Sinaiticus manuscript was rescued from a trash can in a monastery.

Oxyrrhynchus manuscripts are other notable texts (scraps) from this textual family. They were actually found in an ancient garbage dump.

Have any of the modern version proponents ever wondered WHY their manuscripts were in places like dumps, trash cans, attics, and buried under caves? Could it be that they were recognized as GARBAGE in their day, and treated accordingly?



Here are some of the most incredible corruptions:

1. Who Killed Jesus?

(KJV Matt 27:49-50 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.)

Matt 27:49-50 (from Sin and Vat) Let us alone. Let us see whether Elijah will come to save him. Then another came with a spear and pierced his side and immediately there came out water and blood. Then Jesus cried with a loud voice and gave up the ghost. 

There you have it - the ultimate blasphemy. Jesus did not die supernaturally as He Himself stated He would in John 10. Rather, according to these corrupt witnesses which add John 19:34 to this verse, Jesus was just another normal human who died the way every man dies (in this case He was killed by the soldier stabbing Him with his spear), in which case he couldn't save a drowned cat. That isn't the only serious error in the Alexandrian abominations, but it alone is enough to trash them as utterly corrupt. Here's a few more:

2. Kept by Satan?

John 17:15 (Vat B) I do not pray that you should take them from the evil one.  

(KJV: John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world.)

What a serious difference! The Alexandrian manuscript has Jesus praying that His disciples would be left with Satan! Perhaps in the modern versions, he got this prayer answered! People are left in the hand of the devil.

3. A Controversy About a Victory.

(KJV 1 Cor 15:54-55 ... Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?)

1 Cor 15:54-55 (Vat B) ... Death is swallowed up in CONTROVERSY. O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your CONTROVERSY. 

Why shouldn't MV proponents be swallowed up in controversy? They have no absolute scripture, what else could they be swallowed up in? How can they have victory when they don't even have a sure scripture? The whole difference between us and them is that we have certain victory, and they have confusion and controversy. This is just the reading that should be in their versions. I'm surprised they leave it out of their English versions, it fits so well with what they believe to just leave it as it reads in the Alexandrian Greek.

4. No Change For Us. 

(KJV I Cor 15:51 We shall NOT all sleep, but we shall all be changed.)

I Cor 15:51 (Sin) We shall sleep but we shall NOT ALL be changed.

The exact opposite. We will have to spend eternity in our corrupted, vile bodies of death.

5. New Versions Are Empty.

(KJV Rev 21:5 Behold, I make all things NEW.)

Rev 21:5 (Sin) Behold, I make all things EMPTY.

More and more I'm seeing the modern versions are TRUE within themselves. They won't change us. They leave us under the power of Satan. They stab Jesus. They have controversy rather than victory. And the new versions are empty.

6. Creator or Created?

In this prophecy of Jesus Christ in Micah 5:2, the KJV says His "goings forth" and "from everlasting". Almost every modern version says His "ORIGINS" are from "ANCIENT days". They have turned Jesus Christ into a created being who therefore would need a Saviour himself. Therefore, if the modern versions, and the manuscript horses they rode in on, are correct, we are wasting our time with Christianity and a Christ who is a fraud, not deity, and couldn't save us. If the modern versions are true, we are wasting our time in church when we could be in the bar. We are wasting our time in the Bible when we could be reading pornography. If the modern versions are true, we'd be better off appeasing our flesh. Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.

7. Demonstrable Factual Errors.

Gen 5:25 & 28 ages in the LXX have Methuselah living 14 years AFTER Noah's flood!

1 Sam 17:4 in the LXX has Goliath at only about 6 1/2 feet tall rather than 9 1/2 as in the KJV.

John 5:2 reads Bethsaida or Bethzatha
instead of KJV Bethesda.

The identity of the pool of Bethesda was obscured after Titus sacked Jerusalem in 70 A.D. But the KJV, and it's underlying texts, knew what was true BEFORE 70 A.D. The modern versions and the Alexandrian Septuagint did not. Therefore, their texts are not older or better.

Luke 1:26 (Sin Aleph) And the angel Gabriel was sent to a city of JUDEA, named Nazareth.

Luke 4:44 where they say that Judea is inside Galilee.

Luke 23:45 where it says the sun was “eclipsed” during a full moon.

These are demonstrable ERRORS, not just a matter of interpretation. Some of these errors in the Hebrew and Greek were not retained in the modern English versions. This only shows their inaccuracy and dishonesty in avoiding their own underlying manuscripts. Their translators realized how preposterous those errors were and realized if they left them in their English versions, people would see how ridiculous they were.



Here are some of the other clear errors of lesser importance, but obvious errors just the same:

1 Thess 2:7 (Vat and Sin) But we were BABIES among you. (KJV: "gentle")

They are babies. They have no meat of the word, all they might have is milk of some "message". They are just being honest about themselves here. We can't fault them for that, can we?

Gen 2:2 has God ending His creative work a day earlier in the LXX than the KJV.

Luke 3:33 – Aleph engages in one of its many magic tricks and makes two names out of one, viz., instead of “Aminadab” Aleph has “Admin” and “Adam.”

Luke 3:22 – Aleph has “Balls” instead of “Boaz.”

Matt 1:7 and following that Asaph the psalmist was in the royal lineage instead of Asa the king.

John 1:4 where they omit “of men”. Or where they omit “of the will of man” in John 1:13.

John 1:14 where they say “full of grace truth”, thus omitting the connective “and”.

Luke 23: where they omit the word of Jesus, “Father forgive them”.

Jonah 3:4 (LXX) Yet THREE days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. (KJV: 40 days)

Rev 7:4 and 14:3 both mention the 144,000 in the KJV. However Sinaiticus has 140,000 in 7:4 and 141,000 in 14:3.

Rev 10:1 Sinaiticus says: "clothed with a cloud with hair on his head.", instead of a
"rainbow" (KJV).


There are countless more, but these show what kind of corrupted abominations we're dealing with. How could any honest Christian use anything connected with such egregious errors to line their bird cages for fear their parakeet might repeat some of it?

Anyone with the brain waves of lime jello can see Satan's fingerprints all over the MVs and the Alexandrian mss. If the devil inspired a version, these are just the kind of changes I'd expect him to make.Remember, the first two things noted about the serpent in the Bible (Gen 3:1):

1) He is the most SUBTLE creature

2) He questions God's word

I would not expect Satan to make glaring, wholesale, changes. Even the MVers might notice in that case. I would expect the serpent to make subtle, minor, wording changes that he can get the most mileage out of.


  1. Ever heard of going back to the original text and then start explaining things?

  2. That would be difficult, actually impossible. The originals no longer exist. We have to trust God that He would preserve His word unto all generations, as He promised.

  3. DSS is older than Masoretic and is said to match Septuagint for Goliaths height.

  4. There is some overlap between the DSS and the Masoretic. DSS cover hundreds of years, some over 1,000 years apart. Some of the Masoretic texts go back about as far as much of the DSS.

    However, age doesn't necessarily mean truth. There were forgeries of God's word circulating before all the originals were complete. They are even mentioned in scripture.

    So if the DSS have Goliath as a six footer instead of a 9-10 footer, they are in error. A man shorter than king Saul would not be a giant.