Saturday, November 17, 2012

LUCIFER IS NO STAR!

Lucifer is no star!  (adapted from Scott Jones)


Those who believe that "helel" should be translated "morning star" in Isaiah 14:12 instead of "Lucifer" as it is in the KJV, contend that helel is an adjective and not a proper name much like the term "morning star" is applied to the planet Venus.

But - The Hebrew word is "helel" and it is a NOUN in the masculine singular absolute. Just as "YHVH" is a masculine noun singular absolute and could mean "I am" yet it is nevertheless the NAME of God.  Just as "Hadad" is a masculine noun singular absolute and normally means "shout" yet it is used throughout the scriptures to name a PERSON called "Hadad."

This type of usage is PERVASIVE throughout the OT. The term "Lucifer" for "helel" is not one whit different than HUNDREDS - possibly THOUSANDS - of like instances throughout the OT.

"Helel" means light bearer, just as "YHVH" means "I am," just as "hadad" means "shout," yet in each case and HUNDREDS more these Hebrew words are rendered as proper names in the masculine singular absolute.

People who think "Lucifer" is an error are people who darken counsel by words without knowledge.

Further, the words "star" and "morning" appear NOWHERE in the Hebrew in Isaiah 14:12. The Hebrew word for star, "kokab" is nowhere in the passage, even though it was used more than 30 times in the OT. Jesus is the "morning star" (Rev 22:16). To make Lucifer into that is to confuse Jesus with Satan. Who would inspire a Bible to do that? Hmmm?

The bibles that have the words "morning" or "star" in this passage have utterly botched the translation - they have ADDED to the Word of God WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION - which is SOP for the Alexandrian Cult and their putrid blasphemous bibles, for in this case they go out of their way to blaspheme Jesus Christ in Hebrew, Greek, and English.

Lucifer - helel

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The argument goes that Lucifer is not the correct translation for the Hebrew word "helel". The modern transgressions translate helel instead as "Morning Star", or a derivation thereof.
One of the definitions for helel is "shining, burning light" (brightness in Strong's). That fits well with LUCifer (lucient, luster, lumen, etc.) Lucifer broken down is "Light Bearer".

Besides being synonymous with light/Lucifer, helel also retains the devil's connection with hell. Hell in many languages is a variation of helel.

It cannot be "morning star" since neither the word for star (kocab), nor the word for morning are in the Hebrew text there (morning is in a different place, star isn't in the verse). But star is in the very next verse (and 30 others), showing that God could've used it, but didn't in verse 14. Further proof that God put helel there for Lucifer on purpose is that "voheir kocab", not helel, was used for morning star in Job 38:7 When the *morning stars* sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Look at the context of other descriptions of Lucifer:

Job 41:18-19 By his neesings a LIGHT doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. 19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps (LIGHT), and sparks of fire (LIGHT) leap out.

Job 41:21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame (LIGHT) goeth out of his mouth.

Job 41:32 He maketh a path to shine (LIGHT) after him; one would think the deep to be hoary (LIGHT).

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as LIGHTNING fall from heaven.


The Morning Star is Jesus Christ (2 Pet 1:19, Rev 22:16), not Satan. Isaiah 14 is not talking about the Morning Star, it is talking about Lucifer.

Lucifer vs Day Star

A couple of KJV critics are poking their heads out on BL's list. I thought I'd lop their heads off with a few swings of my Sword. This one was a set-up for the second post.

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more SUBTLE than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, YEA, HATH GOD SAID {???}, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

You're right. Satan has made some translators so disbelieving of God's own scripture that they feel they must change it to help God out. Any version rendering Lucifer as Day Star is confusing Lucifer with Jesus Christ.

{{ No, it is you who are confused. If you read the context of this passage it is clear that Jesus is not spoken of. }}

Let's do just that. You'll find that the context allows it to be Christ in many places. If the KJV didn't explicitly tell you it was LUCIFER instead of the day/morning STAR (which is Christ) this interpretation would allow
for some false doctrines concerning Christ.

Isa 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Was not Jesus Christ sent out of heaven, to the earth? 13 For thou
hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I  will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Did Jesus Christ not ascend into heaven, and does He not plan to have a throne, upon the mount, of the sides of the north, in the New Jerusalem? 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Didn't Jesus ascend above the clouds, and isn't He like the most  High? 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.


Didn't Jesus Christ go to the heart of the earth (His soul was "not left in hell")?

Isa 14:16-17 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; Who makes the earth tremble and shakes kingdoms? [Jesus perhaps?] 17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Who MADE the world and destroyed cities? Could it not have been Christ?

Isa 14:18-19 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. 19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust
through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.


Who was cast OUT of the grave? The same thing is true in:

Ezek 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle,  and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Wasn't Christ in Eden? Wasn't He "created a little lower than the angels"? You see how not specifying LUCIFER in Isaiah allows for perversions of doctrines about Christ?

Ezek 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Christ means "anointed". Jesus was on God's mountain and in hell.

Ezek 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Wasn't iniquity found in Christ on the cross?

Ezek 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Didn't Jesus die the death of sinners? Without knowing for certain that these two passages are talking about the DEVIL, SATAN, LUCIFER, it is too easy to get them confused with Jesus Christ. Particularly if the version says it is the Morning Star, which IS JESUS CHRIST! This is one place where swapping names can bring disastrous results! Thank God for His pure KJV to eliminate any chance at confusion.

Lucifer vs Day Star

Here is the follow-up that finishes lopping off their heads.

Ezek 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found IN thee.

{{ Wasn't iniquity found in Christ on the cross? }}

The key here is the subtle (Gen 3:1!) difference between the words IN and ON.

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid ON him the iniquity of us all.

1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and
IN him is no sin.

Lucifer had HIS OWN sin IN him, Jesus had OUR sin ON Him, but NO sin IN Him.

The difference between IN and ON is the only thing that prevents all those verses in the other posts from applying to Jesus instead of Lucifer!

Never mind quoting the wrong prophet, omitting salvation of the eunuch and such, if the difference between IN and ON can cause such havoc, I'm going to stand on my King James Bible with BOTH FEET! If you wanna trust your eternal soul to the NIV, help yourself. Not me.

Ezek 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

{{  Didn't Jesus die the death of sinners? }}

Without knowing for certain that these two passages are talking about the DEVIL, SATAN, LUCIFER, it is too easy to get them confused with Jesus Christ. Particularly if the version says it is the Morning Star, which IS JESUS CHRIST! This is one place where swapping names can bring disastrous results! Thank God for His pure KJV to eliminate any chance at confusion.

Much the same. Jesus died FOR sinners, Lucifer will die the death OF sinners.

Psa 82:6-7 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

IN and ON is only a difference of ONE letter! FOR and OF is only a difference of ONE letter. Not every subtle change is so potentially disastrous, but these are. You can have your "version of the month", I will clutch the KJV like Eleazar clutched his sword.

2 Sam 23:10 He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.

I've got the SWORD and the great VICTORY, and I'm not letting go no matter what satanically inspired idiot tries to convince me to.

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Helel: Lucifer or Jesus? - from Dr. Gerardus Bouw
 

A few random notes about Lucifer/Helel I've come across the past few days from Gerry Bouw's  quarterly. I haven't had a chance to organize it into an article. Those of you who are not GC are not permitted to use
this information :-)

Ellil is a Sumerian god who was the leader of a rebellious younger generation of Sumerian and Akkadian gods. We often overlook such cultures because of the influence of the Greek and Roman culture on us, but the OT Hebrews would have been much more influenced by the Sumerian culture.

The interpretation of Ellil is "lord of the wind and air" (Eph 2:2) and he was "king of all populated lands" (Luke 4:5, 2 Cor 4:4).

If that doesn't indicate Helel/Ellil = Lucifer/Satan, I don't know what could.

Helel may well have come through the Greek "helios" (sun god) and the German "hellen/helder", (shiny). There is Lucifer, your "light bearer" and "angel of light". The word entered English as "hell" - which has
something to do with shining light (fire).

Helel broken down would be: el = god hel=hell or shiny, so Helel would be (shiny) god of hell. Rather appropriate for Lucifer/Satan.

Both Lucifer and Helel are:

1) the son of the morning (NOT the morning star)
2) shiny light bearers
3) cast from heaven
4) aspire to replace the sun and the Son
5) both assume titles they didn't earn

Their characteristics match - they do not match Jesus Christ.

Helel cannot be the "morning star" (Jesus Christ) or the Babylon king. The dead were not stirred at the death of the king of Babylon, and worms never covered Jesus Christ in death (read Isaiah 14).

Tanach on Helel/Lucifer

The Judaica Press Tanach (found at several sites like http://jewish.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=3, http://www.hebrewbible.com/exbib.html) is the English rendition of the OT Hebrew.

One thing I found of great interest is that in Isaiah 14:12 they translate this as "How are you fallen from heaven O LUCIFER!!! Interesting. HEBREW scholars recognize the Hebrew word "helel" in English as LUCIFER, not as "morning star", "Venus" or the other stupid things the modern versions make it into when they confuse Satan and Jesus Christ in this verse.

Morning Star by Frederick Potts

If you thought the NIV's replacing "Lucifer" with "morning star" was bad, just wait till you see what the 1995 NASB does! NASB cross reference says Jesus is fallen from Heaven!!

Undoubtedly, learning that the NIV "bible" replaces "Lucifer" (a name of Satan) with "morning star" (a name of Jesus) in Isaiah 14:12 can be quite a shocker for some. I make no apology; it is the NIV translators who should be apologizing. But what about the NASB? The "scholars" say that it is the best Bible available. How does it deal with Isa 14:12.

Isaiah 14:12 (NASB, 1995 ed.) "How you have (A) fallen from heaven, O (B) star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! 

Cross references:
A. Isaiah 14:12 : Is 34:4; Luke 10:18; Rev 8:10; 9:1
B. Isaiah 14:12 : 2 Pet 1:19; Rev 2:28; 22:16 


The NASB translators replace "lucifer" with "star of the morning." What's worse about that, you say? "Star of the morning" is grammatically equivalent with "morning star." They mean the same thing. But wait, it gets worse.

The NASB (in the most recent and therefore "most accurate" 1995 edition), has a list of cross references for "star of the morning." Let's look them up.

2 Pet 1:19 (NASB) So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. 

Do you really want some entity that is fallen from heaven to arise in your heart? I though Jesus lived in our hearts. Unless Jesus is the morning star.)

Rev 2:28 & 22:16 are given as cross references for "star of the morning" in Isa 14:12 in the 1995 NASB.

Rev 2:28 (NASB) and I will give him the morning star.

Rev 22:16 NASB: "
I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.

In Rev 22:16, Jesus is declaring that HE is the MORNING STAR. In cross-referencing to this verse, are they not indeed stating that Jesus is fallen from Heaven and destined for Hell? While the NIV only implies this by inserting "morning star" into the text, the NASB flat out declares this with their cross references! Whoever put Rev 22:16 as a cross reference to Isa 14:12 in the NASB is either grossly retarded or a Satanist masquerading as a Christian! Either way, this individual or individuals should NOT be allowed to function in any Christian ministry, let alone as a Bible translator! These INFIDELS should be IMMEDIATELY removed from any ministry they now hold, and this cross-reference should be removed IMMEDIATELY from the NASB! There is NO excuse for this utter blasphemy in a "Christian" "bible!"

Here is how Isa 14 is supposed to read, from the KJB:

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; 

In conclusion, the new NASB's handling of Isaiah 14:12 is even worse than the NIV's. Is this not one more evidence of modern, apostate "bible" perversion, and another proof that we should stick with the God honored King James Bible?

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